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alfreda89 ([personal profile] alfreda89) wrote2005-10-24 06:08 pm
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Possibly good news....

I've been looking at the actual wording of Prop. #2, and we all know I'm fuzzier than usual, but...have these bigots accidentally invalidated EVERY marriage in Texas? Should this amendment go through?

http://www.lwvtexas.org/PDF%20Files/VG%20Eng%202005%20REVISED.pdf

Firefox didn't like this link, but IE got me to League of Women Voters.

Just wondering...

[identity profile] mongo42.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, I believe they have. Pretty funny stuff. Although having something that flawed pass both houses that easily is pretty appalling.

We actually had a message on our answering machine from some conservative group that was warning us that "liberal, activist judges" could use prop. 2 to invalidate "legitimate" marriages. So even some of the conservatives are against it. I find that very encouraging.

[identity profile] alfreda89.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 06:14 am (UTC)(link)
We actually had a message on our answering machine from some conservative group that was warning us that "liberal, activist judges" could use prop. 2 to invalidate "legitimate" marriages. So even some of the conservatives are against it. I find that very encouraging.

**Sigh.** They control the Executive, Legislative, and pretty much the Judicial portions of our government--with all the chaos and fiscal debauchery the Founding Fathers feared. They control almost all the media, except blogging and The Daily Show. Just who are these "Liberal, activist judges"--that poor Baptist who told Terri's parents they couldn't keep coming back with the same argument to keep her line from being pulled? Who was tossed out of his church for doing his job?

I keep telling myself the backlash should be interesting...

[identity profile] mongo42.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 01:33 pm (UTC)(link)
The backlash should indeed be interesting. If any dems go in with a "let bygones be bygones" attitude I'll work my hardest to vote them out. These bastards have caused a lot of damage. They need to be beaten down so severely that it'll be at least another 50 years before they regain power.

[identity profile] alfreda89.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 04:18 pm (UTC)(link)
These bastards have caused a lot of damage. They need to be beaten down so severely that it'll be at least another 50 years before they regain power.

Our only hope is if the religious right figure out they were used. Of course, they'll be looking for a better candidate to "legislate from the Oval Office"....

[identity profile] shalanna.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 07:50 am (UTC)(link)
Today, we got an automated phone call from a preacher at some large church who warned that the amendment was a "trick" and was going to take away more than they admitted to, and that it would be misapplied from the get-go. For example, if a woman was a widow with one child who dies leaving instructions that her single brother is to have custody of her child and become legal guardian, it can be invalidated using loopholes in this thing, resulting in the child going into the state foster system insted. That is NOT what the original people who suggested this amendment meant, obviously!! The riders and additions to it have made it totally dangerous. So even the conservative churches are fighting it. That is REALLY scary, that even the most conservative are fighting alongside the moderates and progressives . . . the ONLY ones who want it to pass are the people who want to see the gov't become a totalitarian state. Gah!

[identity profile] alfreda89.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 04:16 pm (UTC)(link)
And of course the people who launched all this will be saying "This isn't what we meant! It's been corrupted by the liberal leftists!"

I got one of those calls, too--the www.savetexasmarriage.com site is a far-right site. Fascinating, all of it. I'm not married, so I was just voting against bigotry (and the polygamists in West Texas... ;^) )

A friend of mine says people get the government they deserve. I don't deserve this!

[identity profile] mongo42.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep, save texas marriage is the people that left the message on our machine as well.

[identity profile] incandragon.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Where can one go to find the riders? I've only found the basic bit.

:-(

[identity profile] alfreda89.livejournal.com 2005-10-26 03:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry, serious blank here. Do you want to find all the Prop #? Or something else?