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alfreda89 ([personal profile] alfreda89) wrote2013-10-06 02:17 pm
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The Cat Has Defeated Me

Well,

I come to you today to ask for suggestions. My local pet store stopped carrying California Natural Chicken & Rice for Cats after the last salmonella scare. It was something like the fourth since Proctor & Gamble took over the food line. I understood that this was probably not a good idea for my kitty's kibble. But I was uneasy, because Merlyn is 18 years old. He's a spry 18 (88 in human years) but change is not always good.

He is hypothyroid and in the very earliest stages of kidney distress. So I can't feed him grain-free. He liked a mix of CN Ch & rice dry and Science Diet K/D dry. So I went in search of a new mixer food.

My pet store has offered suggestions and even lets me return the $%%^## bags, but we have gone through SIX, yes SIX dried foods since I found out about the recall in August. The seventh is sitting, ignored, in a bowl next to the Science Diet crunchies. Thank the universe for the Science Diet crunchies, because he won't eat ANY of the premium dry chicken ^ rice I've tried him on, having lost a half pound (and he only weighted 8 pounds to begin with.)

I've tried Nulo, Wellness, Felidae, Nutri-Source and three others. Nada. I'm feeding him SD crunchies, and meat twice a day, but more than a heaping teaspoon is not good for him. At this point, I would let him just eat the SD crunchies alone except that it's only because he's hungry--he could stand to gain back that half pound. We have little enthusiasm here.

Anyone have a suggestion? I hesitate to go back to California Natural, for his sake and mine. One of these was even lamb & rice, but apparently too weird.

[identity profile] dancinghorse.livejournal.com 2013-10-06 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I have my 17yo cat on Loyall Cat and Kitten. It's sold in feed stores, is made by Nutrena. First ingredient is chicken. It's the only kibble he'll eat, and he saw a big jump in his energy levels when I started him on it.

I avoid the superfancy pet foods because they all have so many recalls. Loyall has never been recalled that I know of.

[identity profile] alfreda89.livejournal.com 2013-10-06 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I've done well with family-owned premiums for about a decade, but a lot of them are finally selling out to the big guys, and quality has plunged. I will investigate the Loyall, thank you. I'll bet at least one feed store here carries it.

[identity profile] dancinghorse.livejournal.com 2013-10-06 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
The one where I get it has free sample bags. Best way to try it.

[identity profile] dancinghorse.livejournal.com 2013-10-06 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
It does have corn and wheat, but it's otherwise very close to what you've been feeding. And it doesn't keep getting recalled.

Cat food recommendation

[identity profile] elizabeth k. burton (from livejournal.com) 2013-10-06 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you coming to B3 this month? I can bring you a sample of what ours are eating—Royal Canin SO Moderate Calorie Urinary Tract Formula. It needs a prescription, and it's pricey, but it contains no artificial preservatives. There's a canned version, too, but only two of mine would eat that, so for canned they get Fancy Feast Liver & Chicken with a teaspoon of pumpkin and four digestive formula Greenies.

Re: Cat food recommendation

[identity profile] alfreda89.livejournal.com 2013-10-06 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
B3? I'm not scheduled anywhere so no. I did try Royal Canin's dry commercial premium a good fifteen years ago, but it was recalled, and also had corn in it, so I stopped feeding that one. I wonder if my vet has it? I usually get the SD from them. They would probably give me a script for it if I asked, unless she really dislikes it for some reason. She likes Merlyn!
Edited 2013-10-06 20:14 (UTC)

[identity profile] romsfuulynn.livejournal.com 2013-10-06 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think you are going to succeed by trying different brands looking for one he'll like.

Try this - buy some of the old brand and start with a day or two of 10% new stuff mixed in. Then 20%. And so on.

[identity profile] alfreda89.livejournal.com 2013-10-06 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I've done that with him before. It doesn't seem to work. At one time, I had a mixture of three foods. Then his brother died. I suddenly had bowls full of one of the mix. I finally realized that he was eating AROUND the one he didn't like, patiently, thoroughly. So ended up with two.

For my next cat, I will mix up a minimum of three foods, in case any brands or flavors leave the market. And then immediately add in another third one!

[identity profile] doranna durgin (from livejournal.com) 2013-10-06 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm a raw food proponent, especially for obligate carnivores like cats--and Science Diet is the devil. Yes, it is. That being said...boy, does it get tough when you're working around an old boy (so handsome!) and specific health issues.

The thing is, kibble is not optimal for any cat, not even the very best of it--not just because of the carbs, but because of the hydration issues it creates. Next best to raw is a really fine canned food. And raw food isn't the problem for kidney cats that the kibble and prescription kitty food folks would have you believe, but I can't dig up and reproduce all that info in one post--besides which, it would be obnoxious of me! Let me just say I have a friend who's kept her kidney cat alive for years longer than expected (along with sub-Q fluids) on a meat diet. Lots of good info on Dr. Karen Becker's Mercola-based site, also.

This link has some really sensible things to say. Not as much in my raw food camp as I personally would like it to be, but there are some good resources here: http://www.felinecrf.org/which_foods.htm

Starting with the fact that the best food is the one the cat will eat--! The cat who lives here fiercely resisted the switch to raw (Darwin winners have nothing on this cat), so I totally sympathize. (It did, in the end, save her life.)

*scritches to kitty!*

[identity profile] sheilagh.livejournal.com 2013-10-07 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
I have a spare sample bag of Lotus rand crunchies. Tomlinsons sells it. Will get it to you soon!