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alfreda89 ([personal profile] alfreda89) wrote2007-10-29 12:16 pm
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[identity profile] incandragon.livejournal.com 2007-10-29 06:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Funny you should mention that. I was thinking about that case a lot recently ... it gets cited a lot as frivolous, and most people don't know -- and often don't care -- that she wasn't burned as in "her skin turned red" but as in "her skin turned black and sloughed off." And that it had happened to other people. A lot.

[identity profile] alfreda89.livejournal.com 2007-10-29 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes -- I've heard the other stories, so I think it's important that people understand it wasn't just lukewarm water....

[identity profile] mouser.livejournal.com 2007-10-29 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Counterpoint

No further comment, except that I can't IMAGINE sitting in scalding liquid for a minute and a half.

[identity profile] alfreda89.livejournal.com 2007-10-29 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
It probably took her five or ten seconds to realize what was happening (older we get, the slower the reaction time) but then what could she do? Dump scalding water on more of herself trying to move, or on anyone sitting next to her?

I, too, expect to be able to sip my tea or coffee and creamer within a minute or so. Now, I won't expect that anymore....

[identity profile] incandragon.livejournal.com 2007-10-30 12:19 pm (UTC)(link)
In general, while I abhor frivolous lawsuits, I think it's a dangerous precedent to outlaw them. Like so many things, it's a slippery slope. You have to allow the stupid wrong things, so that you don't lose the ability to do the unusual, unexpected ... but surprisingly necessary things. Or the things that the big boys don't want you to do, but need to be done.

Now, ask me how I feel about "loser pays court costs" in a case deemed frivolous ...

[identity profile] alfreda89.livejournal.com 2007-10-30 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Now, ask me how I feel about "loser pays court costs" in a case deemed frivolous ...

Dare I? As a person who was sued as a means to get to an insurance company, I was pretty shaking in my boots -- I was sued for more than I had policy insurance. But I won the case 10-2.

[identity profile] ebeeman.livejournal.com 2007-10-30 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
A similar situation happened to my mother a couple years ago on a British Airlines flight. The coffee scalded her to where she had second degree burns (blisters) on her legs. Fortunately, she was okay with OTC medicine and a few days of recovery. And this was in the "post-McDonalds lawsuit" era, so presumably the coffee wasn't as hot as it could have been. But I could easily see how at a higher temperature, the injury would have been even more serious.

---Ellen

[identity profile] starcat-jewel.livejournal.com 2007-10-31 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. I've been known to ask people (especially guys) how they'd like having water just short of boiling dumped over their genitals. But the thing is, even knowing the facts doesn't do much to change the minds of people who are ALREADY CONVINCED that the urban-legend version is the true one. I actually had one person say flat out that the facts didn't matter, it was a horrible verdict. This was after he'd gotten the Infodump From Hell on a newsgroup, and had it proven to him beyond any doubt that every single thing he thought he knew about that case was wrong.